tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8950714.post8444964977877548291..comments2024-02-15T17:38:13.412-06:00Comments on nunblog: The Problem with Pope Francis (UPDATED)Sister Annehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04032465016160490375noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8950714.post-74235307591623531962015-10-07T16:22:13.372-05:002015-10-07T16:22:13.372-05:00I grew up in a poor area and two people I knew wer...I grew up in a poor area and two people I knew were murdered near my house in two different years...two entirely separate murders that had nothing to do with corruption outside of the murderers. The UN figures are online. In such poor areas you can save the murderers or you can save the victims....not both. Brazil and Mexico are saving the murderers....and victims are dead in the thousands...50,000 in a recent year in Brazil...the highest total in the world in the largest Catholic population. China is saving victims in the multi thousands and she's killing murderers as per Genesis 9:5-6 which appears abridged in section 39 of Evangelium Vitae but a Cardinal in the CDF printed the whole thing in ccc #2260.bill bannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09737277581167437670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8950714.post-69079483713584555132015-10-06T09:05:38.442-05:002015-10-06T09:05:38.442-05:00Is it poverty or rather corruption that explains t...Is it poverty or rather corruption that explains the figures you cite? At any rate, it is always important to note the audience of a papal message. In this case, he was adddressing Congress. If he had been speaking to the Mexican government (and he just might when he visits in 2016) he might have focused on corruption, which is, of course, a major problem and not unrelated to crime and the lack of an effective correctional system.<br /><br />Would you agree that Pope Francis is not concerned so much with criminal justice as he is with the salvation (even in terms of this life) of each and every person? His call, both to the US Congress and in a prison itself, for rehabilitation tell us that. He is convinced that society can be made whole again after a crime only if the criminal is restored as a functioning member of the social body. This never happens with the death penalty! <br />I think Francis may also be hinting that the death penalty, by limiting justice to a kind of transaction (eye for an eye), keeps all of society trapped in a vindictive mode, able only to execute justice (sorry for the pun) and not to "create" justice by restoring the prodigals to the family as contributing members. Sister Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04032465016160490375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8950714.post-52572350397105562922015-10-04T08:08:41.032-05:002015-10-04T08:08:41.032-05:00Sr. Anne,
Francis was unwittingly supporting m...Sr. Anne,<br /> Francis was unwittingly supporting murder in his anti death penalty comments because yes middleclass countries don't need the death penalty but the third world does by UN stats simply looked at. The death penalty abolition movement by these last three Popes is looking only at white countries where the middle class is dominant...( does anyone think Mexico has secure prisons as described by ccc 2267?...Pablo Guzman has now twice escaped maximum security).<br />By the new UN figures, this white country perspective falls apart wherever the poor are a substantial part of the population. Catholic non death penalty northern Latin America from Brazil to Mexico has the highest rate of murder on earth...Africa is second with only11 of 54 countries with a death penalty. East Asia largely death penalty is the safest from murder area on earth by UN numbers....1 murder per 100,000. Brazil is 24 per 100,000 and Mexico is 20 per 100,000... both non death penalty. Compared to East Asia, thousands extra per year are being murdered in Catholic countries with no death penalty. These last three Popes quickly looked at Euro prisons and stats. But middleclass low poor population Europe is an outlier....not the norm. Affluent countries have few murders with or without the death penalty. US states mirror Europe when there are few poor...New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont. Read the UN world data which postdate JPII's cursory glance at data.bill bannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09737277581167437670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8950714.post-3525276896763360942015-09-26T07:58:38.086-05:002015-09-26T07:58:38.086-05:00Oh, Ginger! Try to let God rejoice over you! (He&#...Oh, Ginger! Try to let God rejoice over you! (He'll do it anyway, but he wants you to participate in his joy that you exist--no matter what you may have done or what may have been done to you...)Sister Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04032465016160490375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8950714.post-68862530003620000202015-09-26T06:49:05.447-05:002015-09-26T06:49:05.447-05:00I live in Ireland and I watched the Pope's spe...I live in Ireland and I watched the Pope's speech at the Whitehouse live. He said one thing that comforted me a great deal -"God never repents of having created us!" You see I was repenting of having been born.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16797465776145341908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8950714.post-7020997138759458262015-09-25T09:38:39.204-05:002015-09-25T09:38:39.204-05:00I try to remember that his job is to be a shepherd...I try to remember that his job is to be a shepherd that brings ALL people to Jesus, not just me, and he has to meet them where they are. Jacqueline Vickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17066655287551999883noreply@blogger.com